Sunday, June 10, 2007

You've got to be kidding!!

Harriet has now posted 71 reviews over the 14,000 in less than 48 hours.
I noticed for 2 days she didn't write any reviews. Was she reading all those books during that time?!? I am now speechless.

23 comments:

Deborah Hern said...

She's still posting. Amazing. And by "amazing," I mean... amazing that amazon allows this crap.

Susiq2 said...

She is spewing forth like a geyser. We are at 92 since she reached 14,000. HK was at 13,998. Now we are at 14,090 means 92 in 36 some hours . Amazing

Susiq2 said...

They are still coming. I have never seen anything like this in my life....

Stephanie said...

Do you think she slowed down because of our contest we had going and now she will go back to normal?? We can probably expect anywhere from 32 - 68 reviews a day now!

Susiq2 said...

She is at 14,100. i have never seen anything like this. How can she do this?

Moderator said...

Well, that's nothing new. The main point it all proves is that Amazon, regrettably, allows and tacitly encourages this. There's no point in chasing every single shill there: it's clear by now how the Amazon reviews system is set up to operate.

Deborah Hern said...

Agreed. Amazon clearly has no plans - and no incentive - to stop this obviously fraudulent activity. The comments sections are now minefields, with some commenters playing both sides of the fence. (to use a mixed metaphor)

Susiq2 said...

See the HK review for "The Wish Club". Amazon deleted Barbara's and FTF's comments. Why did they do that? They left some other comments......

Susiq2 said...

Why is Amazon deleting Barbara's comments? All of her comments that I have found on the latest batch of HK's reviews have been deleted by Amazon. What is their problem with Barbara's comments? Amazon also deleted one comment from FTF, but left his others alone. Why were any of these comments deleted? I had read them, and found nothing wrong that I can remember,so unless some bad things happened after I went to bed last night I can see no reason for this to happen. Do any of you know what is going on?

MK said...

Susiq2,

Observation and experience in the past have suggested to many that Amazon's delete-post actions are little more than automatic, undertaken after a given minimum number of individuals have reported the post/review as "abusive." In essence, someone with sufficient drive and sufficient "friends" (or sufficient number of aliases) could conceivably have Amazon remove pretty much any comment they decided they did not like. It likely has nothing at all to do with content decency, and everything to do with petty political manuveuring. This conjures delightful speculation of the mental pathology which surely inhabits the minds of these instigators.

MK

KG said...

As of 1:30pm 14,107
I have seen the deleting of Barbara's comments, which I don't understand. She makes valid points. They allow this FTF person to post inane plays that make no sense in the discussion and he doesn't get deleted.
I have also noticed Harriet has been getting alot of negative votes for her newest batch of reviews. But regardless of the neggies, she will always be #1 since no one can catch up to her or have a slew of positive reviews.

Susiq2 said...

Barbara has just emailed me . She has been banned. She thinks that I have made this situation worse for her. I have never, ever done anything to hurt her. That is just not the way that I behave towards anyone. Is there some way to fix this problem? I do not understand how HK got her banned. I guess that I am next.......

Stephanie said...

HK is not the one that got her banned. I believe it was FTF, Zena and MM.

Susiq2 said...

One thing that I have noticed is that HK is posting better reviews. I lay that improvement at Barbara's feet. How could this happen? I felt that HK's reviews were getting better, and GH's miraculous positive vote tallies were all honest, legitimate reasons to be bringing this to Amazon's, and the reading public's attention. Why would Amazon do this? I am sick that BD thinks I am part of her problem with Amazon, and with FTF.........I just do not behave that way, it is not in my nature to hurt anyone, ever. Ask my children. Talk to my husband. I want to somehow fix this, and get BD restored to Amazon, and wherever else she may want to be... This is so wrong, and I feel so bad.......

Susiq2 said...

How could FTF, Zena, and MM have her banned? I do not understand how just customers could do something like this...

Deborah Hern said...

Susiq2, I'll take you at your word that you didn't mean to do anything malicious. But, seriously. How is it helpful when First Things First attacks Barbara and posts nasty comments to/about her, and then you tell him how very clever and inventive his little "playlets" are?

Bottom line... do not encourage someone who is acting like a nasty jerk. I don't care how original you find his writing. Posting admiring comments is just going to encourage him to continue.

As for how "just customers" get thrown off? Well, when you've got a whole host of alias ids that you use to vote "positive" for your own reviews, it's pretty easy to use them to target someone (like Barbara) and click on "report abuse" on each of her comments. It's all automated. Enough 'abuse' clicks gets the comment removed by the software. Enough comments removed = abusive poster and there she goes. Nasty, but not very difficult.

Susiq2 said...

I only ever wanted FTF to see who and what we as a group are: Concerned people trying to have legitimate reviews posted. Before I left for a 10 ? day period I was seeing a different FTF than I came back too. But now he is seeing the problem with HK's reviews, and is posting supportive comments like ours are on HK's reviews. I believe that he is seeing why we have been doing what we are doing. I am feeling support from him, not the anger that I was seeing earlier. Also, I have one account that I use, the one that I do all of my postings with. I do not go around giving out neg. votes. I just do not do that. I try to make constructive comments and humorous comments about some of the sentence structure problems that HK post sometimes. Please feel free to ask me any questions that you may have regarding anything that I have done because I have nothing to hide. About FTF's "playlets, I was not talking about his play-let, I was talking about some of his previous postings. The man is creative, and has a very wry bent to his musings. I recognized that about him. The only thing that I remember from his play-let was something about "sprinkles". I assume he is talking about the multi colored sprinkles that my children put on their ice cream. What else could it be, for heaven's sake? Sprinkles are sprinkles........

Deborah Hern said...

Susiq2 - I'm not sure I understand a whole lot of your response.

Yes, FTF can "play nice" when it suits him. When it doesn't, and it often doesn't, he feels free to post abusive comments. He's one that plays both sides. And I think he's playing you. You're being taken in by him. It's just like any bully on any playground. If you tell him he's great, he might be nice to you, but he'll keep being a bully to everyone else.

No one said you had anything to do with getting Barbara banned. My point was that, Amason's automated systed would allow someone (like, oh, say... FTF, fr'instance) to get rid of whoever he wants to, just by using the voting machine of something (like, oh, maybe Grady?) else.

As for your sprinkles question, I really have no idea what you're talking about there. I somehow feel ok about that!

Barbara Delaney said...

Susiq2,

Your pretence at naivete is wearying. No one could possibly be as obtuse as you are pretending to be.

How much more simply can I put this....FTF is the one who got me banned. By using the sixty vote machine of Grady Harp he was able to accomplish this feat of bravery.

And another thing: It is extremeely poor netiquette to EVER forward someone's emails to you without their express written consent. I've recently found out you've been forwarding my private emails to you. The whole reason I communicated with you privately was to spare you the embarrassment of posting my comments to you publicly.

You are free to delight in FTF all you want. This morning he said of KrossD and MK, both of whom are good friends of mine, that they would make "good little nazi squealers" and said they were the "trashiest pieces of human protoplasm".

This is who is "nice" in your opinion? I've known other people like you, you want to play both sides and wring your hands that you just want everybody to be "nice". Some people are not and never will be "nice". In a comment directed at me on the Grady Harp reviews FTF said to me that he had gotten rid of Misfit and that I would be next. Who will be his next target? JJJS? KrossD? MK?

Soon the HK reviews will be FTF, his dear friend and admirer Susie, MM and Zena. Those will be some brilliant discussions.

Susiq2 said...

In the past 36 hours my eldest son managed to be stranded at various airports around the country, finally arriving home at 1:30 a.m. instead of 4 p.m.the day before. My youngest son brought home 3 of his friends to live with us for a month are so. I have been informed that my West Point cadet, while on a missions trip during "Spring Break" had been cut by debri and now has a bacterial infection that is drug resistant to Everything but a very strong I. V. antibiotic, and may in put in the hospital trying to rid his body of this potentially deadly infection. I really do not feel up to dealing with this issue about Barb, and FTF, but I will address several of BD's accusations: I am not naive. I am well aware how the world works, however, I am a peace maker,I try to inject humor, and a tolerant attitude into my life situations. Obtuse? I guess that can be your call, but you are the first person to say that about me. Do we, as a group, still think that FTF, and his minions, got you temporarily banned? I don't know how you got banned, but I did not have anything to do with it.I am sorry about forwarding your private emails to me along to other people. Barb, it is very unpleasant to receive angry emails from you that I feel I did not deserve. However, it was wrong of me to do so , and I apologize for what I did. I am not responsible for FTF, nor am I "siding" with him. He is not my friend, he will never be my friend. I will never just go about being rude to anyone, and I detest what he said about MK, and KrossD. I had noticed that FTF was spouting some of the same complaints that we are spouting. I was thinking that he was "seeing the light". I truly believe that we will never have a moments peace from him as long as he is so angry at our group. I Had Hoped for reconciliation between all of us, but it seems it will not to be happening. I am not his "dear" anything, much less friend. When he is nice I saw no reason to not try to get him to see why we have been fighting the fight that we have been engaged in. I see no way to continue with posting if he is going to be so angry at us, or at myself, in particular, because I do not handle verbal assaults well. I try for peace, not war. My whole life has been dedicated to making the world a better place, a safer place, and a healthier place. I am sorry that I caused you pain and embarrassment. How did FTF get you banned, temporarily? When and how did he get rid of Misfit? I have heard nothing about this happening.....

Misfit said...

Susieq2,

FTF did not 'get rid of me'. I quit posting comments as I was getting sick of the pervasive nastiness, as did Wooddavis.

If you read carefully through the entire comment thread of the book Titled Love, Lies, etc. (now with 300+ comments) that should clear things up for you.

All, apparently FTF is under the impression we're hatching a conspiracy against his over here. He's going to report it to GH.

'And I did publicly promise to e-mail Grady the information about that conspiracy the half-wits are formulating against me on their web-site which I posted yesterday."

Susiq2 said...

This is just a nightmare. I really hate the way that the comment section has become a literal cesspool of squabling with some people giving neg's as soon as a comment is posted. Some of my comments had nothing wrong with them, no profanity, nothing unkind, and as soon as it posted I had 3 or 4 neg. votes. I do not even know that many people outside of our group. I guess some people have numerous ID's and feel free to spread their animosity around. I am, personally, sick and tired of this mess...........

Susiq2 said...

GH has enough power in his numbers to make life unpleasant for any and all of us, IMHO. I believe that he is angry at us, even though some of us have never posted a word at his site. I can understand you leaving the comment section, I am becoming ill from the conflict on those boards, and I am seriously thinking about leaving Amazon, and this group, because I can not deal with the problems that I have encountered here. I am glad that you are okay, Misfit, I would have hated for you to have been run off also....